AP reported yesterday that the Cuban government has adopted a policy that will allow Cubans to access the Internet through computer facilities at post offices. For years, these facilities have given Cubans access to e-mail, but web access has been limited to the intranet portal Islagrande. The policy has not yet gone into effect. The resolution that changes the policy was published in
Other telecom/IT developments:
- Reuters looks at the possible impact of the Obama telecom opening, and runs a separate “factbox” containing lots of data on telecom/IT in
- EFE reports that
- Cuban Colada notes a Prensa Latina article on Chinese equipment that is being installed in
and now another lie falls -- that's why americans should be allowed to visit cuba without restrictions; to see cuba for ourselves, and end the lies and spins the anti-cuba types continue to try and shove. the more control they lose the worse they will get, end the restrictions now.
ReplyDeleteThe law that allows the Cuban postal service (Correos de Cuba) to register as an ISP (Internet Service Provider) requires that the ISP censors all material that is considered offensive, or against national security or defense (Is this blog accesible from Cuba?), and that it keeps a record of all addresses that access the ISP services. (See Resolution 179/2008 Article 19 items j) and l))
ReplyDeleteVecino de NF
and your point is? are you implying the access is not worth it because of what you commented above, or an attempt to diminish. one step at a time vecino, why wouldn't you want control over national security. did obama not sign TWEA renewal?
ReplyDeleteagain, this is the first step, let them figure out from this first step instead of instantaneous criticism. give them a little breathing room.
as long as anti-revolutionaries continue to threaten violence, as long as the US govt has not renounced its regime change policy, did you expect any less?
anon 1135
ReplyDeleteI agree with you,. what is the point of vecino?
vecino is neo-con, that's all.. this is how they see world - they would go to war with russia and china if they had power.
"let them figure out from this first step instead of instantaneous criticism. give them a little breathing room."
ReplyDeleteYes, this is the calm and rational way to proceed. After all, They have only been in power for 50 years, so this is no time to start engaging in instantaneous criticism.
"as long as anti-revolutionaries continue to threaten violence..."
Once again, this is exactly the right course of action. Sensible people all agree that those reporters, librarians, labour agitators and other dangerous troublemakers *deserve* to be in the slammer, serving their well-deserved 25 year prison terms, imposed after refreshingly prompt one day trials.
Now if we could just give the same treatment to all of those pesky, violence-prone critics of the Project outside of Cuba, like Pax Christi, Amnesty International and Reporters Without Borders, who know *nothing* about the innocence and purity of the nascent First Free Territory of the Americas. Come on, all you fascist nitpickers, They have only been in power for a mere 50 years!
Socialism *never* had enough time to mature in the Soviet Union, and now those CIA-funded "critics" are making the same mistakes with Cuba.
the point is the right wingnuts are simply pavolvian in their response, and then they wonder why the Revolution was radicalized. Or probably not, because that would take intellectual honesty.
ReplyDeleteBut you're right, it's easy to be critical of cuba, and after 50 years the Cubans should be more tolerant and not over-react to those perceived to be in assistance to American hostile policies. It's not like Cuba doesn't still feel threatened, it's not like USA still has an embargo, supports terrorism, restricts travel, and publicly promotes regime change on a small, insignificant island. To the point where they dictate who the Cubans can have as leaders. Yep, there's absolutely no justification.
Unlike America that has, after more than 250 years, still has the capacity to imprison the innocents, send them into rendition, tortures and murders, allows no trials, (you admit there was at least a one day trial for the cubans, how many day's trial did Padilla and thousands of others get?) invades a country illegally and kills thousands. Hires murderers like Blackwater, destroys a country completely. All for a false war. But that's justified.
But then anyone who thinks Reporters without borders is unbiased will have no problem with reconciling the evils of one and the innocence of the other.
So, when will the two party corpocracy of America ever mature? We all wait for this country to take the most basic democratic step, that of providing health care for all its citizens, not just the rich or those who can afford it, to not see millions go into bankruptcy because they can't pay their medical bills, and to end the millions and millions paid in salary for the top insurance bosses while so many die without care. Yeah, that's a great system.
I guess another 200 years for the American republic to mature.
Clean up your own house before you start crapping in someone else's.
Anon 10:23 wrote: "it's not like USA still has an embargo, supports terrorism, restricts travel, and publicly promotes regime change..."
ReplyDeleteExcellent reasoning. Yes, the international community, including the U.S., should continue applying exactly these measures to dangerous mad dog regimes such as Honduras, instead of picking on innocent lambs like the Castro brothers.
"But then anyone who thinks Reporters without borders is unbiased will have no problem with reconciling the evils of one and the innocence of the other."
Again, Anon 10:23's refreshing light of Reason prevails. Just take a look at the Reporters Without Borders website. It is quite clear that those RWF media terrorists are just pretending to criticize the repression of journalists in right-wing countries while heaping LIES against the truly democratic countries: Cuba, Iran, Zimbabwe, Russia and Venezuela.
With a little insight such as Anon 10:23 possesses, it's easy to spot the malicious, anti-Progressive agenda of biased, CIA-funded troublemakers like Reporters Without Borders, Pax Chisti and Amnesty!
Does anyone disagrees with the reference to Resolution 179/2008 Article 19? Does anyone feel that that reference places in context the legal limits for Interent access in Cuba?
ReplyDeleteVecino de NF
PS For the record I have not asked for a millions gallons of gas to invade Russia like Gen. Patton did. Invasions of Russia or China are not advisable according to military experts such as Gen.McCarthur and Gen. Marshall.
"Does anyone disagrees with the reference to Resolution 179/2008 Article 19? Does anyone feel that that reference places in context the legal limits for Interent access in Cuba?"
ReplyDeleteDo you reckon that US still considers Cuba an hostile government and applies that logic to perpetuate the embargo? Do you believe that a country has the right to protect itself from the hostilities of another country? Do you reckon that Cuba has a very limited and expensive Internet bandwidth due to the embargo?
Then why do you complain about the restrictions they impose to the user of Internet? I have not read the resolution you posted, but I'm guessing that it refers to contra-revolutionary sites, pornography and maybe voip services, is that correct?
ac
AC,
ReplyDeleteThe resolution can be accessed through the Ministry of Computers and Telecommunications site, and the Gaceta site. I did not complain about the Internet restrictions in Cuba. I just clarified the legal context of the new resolution allowing Correos de Cuba to become an ISP. It is always interesting how quoting or citing Cuban legislation or official pronouncements lead to the reflexive conclusion of implied critiscism of the Cuban government. Should we recommend Ramiro Valdez for the US Presidential of Freedom? After all he signed both resolutions.
As far as your first three questions, the answers are: Yes, yes, and yes. But the still unanswered question is how do we get out of this hostile impasse? One step at a time, maybe?
Vecino de NF
Well, if it is so is logic to impose certain restrictions, to any service provided, right?
ReplyDeleteThe answer to your question is quite simple, Cuba does not have in place any policy affecting the US, is the other way around, so US should stop trying to meddle in business that wont concern them and let the cold war end once and for all.
Obama just missed a great opportunity to fix things up by prolonging the blockade another year. Too much for change we can trust.
ac,
ReplyDeleteBut Cuba does have in place lots of policies affecting the US. Among them one can cite refuge to US fugitives, nationalization of US properties without compensation, support to groups that would like overthrow the US government and its allies, travel restrictions on US nationals born in Cuba, and so on. So there are lots of topics that the US could bring to the negotiating table. There is no doubt that the Cuban government also has a long list of issues about US policies and practices. Both sides must be ready to give and take. Having said that the biggest issue is the question of how to allow the participation of the sizable number of Cubans who do not agree with the Cuban government their place in Cuba.
As far as Obama's actions are concerned, no US President will give away a presidential right. They may not exercise it but they will never give it away.
Vecino de NF
"Among them one can cite refuge to US fugitives"
ReplyDeleteAs long as US gives safe heaven to cuban refugees, I don't see the point.
"nationalization of US properties without compensation"
That was denied by the US government. Originally Cuba wanted to paid, and they already settled that debt with any non US citizen.
"support to groups that would like overthrow the US government and its allies"
Technically is not illegal to support any movement you want, but tell me what movement Cuba supported that threaten to overthrow the US government? Besides, they don have anything remotely similar to operation mongoose, right?
"travel restrictions on US nationals born in Cuba"
Cubans born in US had and in some instances still have the same restrictions imposed by US government. Besides this is not true, for most people getting the US visa is the hardest part.
Is not a matter of give and take. Cuba is not threating US in any possible way, while the US actively prosecutes Cuban assets and international partners.
ac,
ReplyDeleteIs your point that the US does not have any interests that they need the Cuban government to accomodate?
Do you equate fugitives from US justice with Cubans who are admitted into the US as refugees regardless of whether they committed a crime or not under Cuban legislation?
As far as "travel restrictions on US nationals born in Cuba" is it not a fact that US citizens who are born in Cuba and who emigrated from Cuba after 1959 must pay additional fees to the Cuban governement to travel to Cuba including getting a Cuban passport if they emigrated after 1971?
Vecino de NF
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